August 19, 2013
Discount Imitrex, Ed. Note: I'd like to welcome Rosslyn as a new guest blogger. She's brand new to RPGs, and could use a little help and advise. You'll see why. Take it away, Rosslyn.
I had my first play of Pathfinder a couple of months ago.
I had my second session the following week, Discount Imitrex.
But, I honestly just want to give up on this campaign I'm in the middle of.
I was at the local wargame club and nearly everybody was locked into cliquey, Imitrex india, closed games of this or that... so the only thing to actually do was become a Pathfinder noob or stare at a wall for a few hours.
So, despite my uncertainty (I always felt a bit "meh" about D&D to be honest) I figured I would give Pathfinder a go... Discount Imitrex, whatever it was.
I'd had some reserve about this for ages, because I don't know how to even make a character ... but people kept insisting that"'oh, the people who usually play will show you how to do that, so just jump right in".
The honest fact of it is that I don't think I actually have been shown how to make a character properly at all.
To begin with, Imitrex craiglist, the guy doing the DMing tried to claim that I couldn't join them because there would be too many people. But one of the players (who has been trying to encourage me to have a game with them for ages) was like, "oh seriously..., Discount Imitrex. come on... let her play. She has nothing else to do, and we can include another player just fine. "
The DM agreed, but I just feel like (and I could be wrong, or it is probably unintentional but...) it's like I'm allowed to play, but the DM isn't really making any effort to genuinely include my character in the game.
Discount Imitrex, So, the module we were playing is the much-applauded 'We Be Goblins'
I've been looking things up about this today, and I understand that pretty much everybody has a wonderful time with this module. 100mg Imitrex, I also gather that it's designed in such a way that you'd probably have to be a lobotomized monkey in order to possibly manage to bugger up DMing the adventure.
In other words, the module comes with a short well-described ready-to-go adventure, along with a selection of well-considered, very robust goblins, which have been pre-made and tailored to the module for easy player accessibility, optimal enjoyment of the game, and the basic ability to actually finish the adventure using the equipment and skills which they have without dying countless times in the process.
I've read a few online reviews/play-through descriptions earlier today, and it sounds like a fun adventure... I like reading about how different groups approached one conundrum differently, Imitrex coupon, and that kind of thing.
But the module in those reviews and play through descriptions is a different thing from what I encountered at the gaming club I reckon, Discount Imitrex.
I wish I could have played the module as it was intended to be used, but now I will never get the chance.
It's difficult to describe what I mean without spoiling the module for anybody, but I'll give it a try.
So, right from the start of the adventure you are supposed to be playing as one of the pre-made goblins. These guys have a lot of character, and their abilities appear to be designed so that the adventure can allow them to enjoy using their talents. Discount Imitrex, The goblins are all fairly robust, and all of them (to my astonishment) come equipped with a huge amount of stuff.... 50mg Imitrex, armour, or bows, or potions... weird things... all manner of stuff...
This was not what I was told.
The DM made no effort at all to help me create a character, Discount Imitrex.
I had to get help with that entirely from the guy who was sitting next to me... who might well have been telling me a load of nonsense.
At the very best, what he was doing was rushing me through the character creation process and not caring whether I ended up with a boring or incomprehensible character, or if I peed half of my ability points down the drain by spending them on something worthless.., 30mg Imitrex. because he just wanted to rush through it and enjoy himself playing the game. Discount Imitrex, Well, he dropped out after the first session because he got bored.
And I was still stuck with some half-baked character.
We all had to hand in our character sheets at the end of the first session so the DM could keep them together.... but I doubt he has bothered to check over my character sheet to see whether everything is in order or not.
The reason I doubt this is because when I showed up for the second session, the DM tried to tell me that I couldn't play because I didn't have a character sheet. I pointed out that I jolly well should do, and said he ought not to be taking it away if he couldn't manage to bring it the next time, Discount Imitrex. He seemed surprised, looked through the character sheets, and insisted I didn't have one. Imitrex us, I asked to see the character sheets, and after a brief flick through easily found mine. The DM stared in disbelief.... oh, that's YOUR character . Discount Imitrex, I thought that was Player X's goblin. It's the kind of character that he would have.
Well, as I recall Player X was an entirely different sort of goblin.
Mine is a rogue, his is is some sort of spell-slinger.
Mine is also the only female goblin..., 10mg Imitrex.
.., Discount Imitrex. and mine is also the only character sheet which is half done in pen because nobody told me I should be using pencil even though they could clearly see me sat there with a pen filling it in. The DM was kind of a dick about it & wouldn't let me rewrite my statistics onto a new character sheet in pencil, so it surely takes a real effort to make the mistake which he did.
Well, there is also the fact that after playing with our characters for THREE HOURS you might hope he would be able to at least understand who is playing which goblin.
Well anyway, so off we went on our adventure, with nobody bothering to explain that the module was designed to be used with pre-made characters.... Discount Imitrex, or that such a concept even exists in the Pathfinder universe.
Nobody bothered to explain what any of the statistics and abilities are used for, 40mg Imitrex, so unless it was obvious (like climbing and swimming) there was no real skill to that, or enjoyment to be had from it.
Any of the pre-made characters seem infinitely more desirable to me than the "Generic Goblin X" which I've ended up saddled with.
Oh, I should also say that the DM is making us all go through We Be Goblins without any of the starting equipment, and without any of the special equipment which you acquire near the beginning as the result of a certain major event.
I have been playing for six loooooong hours, and my character is literally having to run about in her underpants equipped with nothing except a dogslicer, and some potion which nobody could be bothered to explain what it's actually for - so it may as well be a blue-bum baboon for all the good it does me. It prevents the effects of fear for a minute, but since i have no idea what those effects are..., Discount Imitrex. or when you might expect to encounter them, it's just deadweight to me, 1000mg Imitrex.
So far, two of the players have died twice.... and we haven't even got near the goal or had any of the key battles. We should have had at least one of those by now I gather, so perhaps the DM has decided not to bother with those. Discount Imitrex, I REALLY get the impression that this is NOT how the adventure was designed to be played.
... also, is the idea with this game that every person in the adventuring party states individually what their actions are . That's how it was with D&D ... 150mg Imitrex, I think .
So..., Discount Imitrex. if there's a fork in the road and something needing to be carried.... and four people in the party.... and if three people theatrically waltz off down one of the forks leaving the package behind.... then even if it's a full ten minutes before anybody bothers to acknowledge the fourth member of the party, they surely are still stood where they were before.... Discount Imitrex, at the fork, next to the parcel .
The way this game is being played, there are two players who are most experienced, and most theatrical. The DM seems to just focus on them nearly the whole time. I think because it's more fun for him to do than encourage the rest of us to be more active participants, Imitrex overseas.
They certainly are fun to watch playing the game :-) I can see why the DM does focus on them so much. But I do find it almost impossible to figure out what is happening a lot of the time because the two experienced players and the DM often have stretches where they communicate in a sort of spoken short-hand, with gestures, Discount Imitrex.
So, they will do a bit of that and decide what the two of them are doing, then the DM often behaves like everybody else has stated they're doing the same as the first two.
I was ignored when I said that I wanted to try swimming through the swamp to reach the goal.... they were too busy having a [frankly not very appropriate] chat together about how neither of the two 'big players' trust the DM enough to swim in anything he provides in an adventure.
I tried saying I wanted to swim a few times, then just gave up. Discount Imitrex, I was sat right next to the GM, so he definitely heard me.
... Imitrex canada, and I continued to be ignored even when I sounded fed-up and stated that at the very least I should have to do an intelligence test if they weren't going to let me decide to swim in the swamp... because there is no possible way my character would know that the DM would be the sort of person to put monsters in the swamp and deliberately kill us with them if we try to swim.
... and I was totally ignored, Discount Imitrex.
It later emerged (when they needed me to save one of them who was drowning) that actually, neither of those guys could even swim. So, surely their views on the DM don't even come into it.
Shouldn't they have simply stated that they could not swim, when the DM suggested it as a possibility.... and allowed me to make my own decision on whether to swim or not . Discount Imitrex, Similarly, I was ignored when I tried to climb down a tree. To minimise our exposure, the plan was to nip up a tree quickly , have a quick look around, then immediately climb right back down again.
I said "I climb the tree, Imitrex japan, look all around, then climb back down again."
... after another 5-10 minutes of theatricals with his friends, which inexplicably included a part where his friend looked up and saw me in the tree (continuity fail!) , he then asked if I wanted to climb back down the tree. What can you even say to that . *sigh.... yes, I still want to climb down the tree, Discount Imitrex.
One time everybody was running away from something (i forget what) the DM looked at me, asked what I wanted to do, Imitrex australia, then immediately (without waiting for an answer) launched back into the theatricals with his friend on the other side. And I just had no idea what was even supposed to be happening, and nobody bothered to explain it, so it was really tedious to try and follow what was happening.
I really do like how they get into it though, I should say.
They're obviously happier playing without me involved, and I just feel like... Discount Imitrex, oh , well... I guess I'll see myself out then.
I don't know what is taking so long either..... we've been at this adventure for 6 hours, Imitrex ebay, with the most experienced people setting the pace.... and we're not even near the goal yet. We've not had the huge event at the start which probably lasts a while, Discount Imitrex. We have not had any of the main battle encounters. We have not been spending time thinking of unique ways to use our equipment, since we never had any to begin with. It's so boring, having nothing to use. Not even anything useless but fun, like a pet toad (sigh). Discount Imitrex, Other people report that the module can be expected to take a single gaming session, lasting between 2-4 hours depending on combat length. 750mg Imitrex, We're up to 6 hours.. aren't even at the primary destination yet.... and have spent next to nothing on combat time.
We seem to have spent hours just sort of.... farting about in the mist with really not much happening..., Discount Imitrex. or if stuff happens, it makes no sense or my character is not allowed to have any real input, so it may as well be nothing happening for all the difference it makes to my sense of engagement with the game.
One of the other players got annoyed with me, and I don't even know why. There's nothing I could do about it.
If you would be able to comment on this, 200mg Imitrex, I would really appreciate it. Discount Imitrex, This player was already frustrated because the DM keeps killing off his characters in their campaigns and it's winding him up.
In fairness, I did abandon him in the middle of trying to save him from drowning.... but that was because I kept getting awful dice rolls while trying to pull him to the shore. She was close to drowning by then herself, and it was obvious that if it happened again then the DM was going to kill off my character.
But, he did survive that. I'm not entirely sure how, Discount Imitrex. And, Imitrex paypal, he doesn't even seem to mind that I gave up trying to save him. However, he was then by the shore unconscious.
This is where I'd say things get.... sketchy. Discount Imitrex, The party had to make a decision about where to move next.
The 'big two' chose some path-or-other and set off briskly.
I said nothing. Nobody asked me what I was doing. Nobody asked whether I was following them. In fact, as far as anybody else was concerned I may as well have been an empty chair, Discount Imitrex.
My understanding is that under D&D rules this would mean I was exactly where I started.... by the shore, Imitrex mexico, next to an unconscious guy, until further notice.
Isn't this Pathfinder module meant to be compatible with D&D rules though . Surely this ought to be the case in Pathfinder as well, then !!?. Discount Imitrex, Well, what happened was the usual semi-coherent but very enjoyable jolliness and banter among the 'big three' (maybe i should stop playing the game and just sit and watch them play if there's nothing else to do at the wargame club, because it's enjoyable to watch their antics :-) ) ... so the two main players were roaming off down this one path together.... and about ten minutes later, the DM interrupts their discussion to point out that "we" had left the unconscious guy behind when "we" walked off down the path. He did not allow anybody to go back and get him. Imitrex uk, Much to the distress of the unconscious guy .
Nobody bothered to tell me before this point, but it turned out that I was the only goblin out of the three remaining party members who had the strength to carry the unconscious guy on my own, Discount Imitrex.
I started by pointing out that I never said I was going anywhere, but got stonewalled.
I gave up trying to have independent character control then, and just remarked "Fine. Well, I could carry him. But it wasn't covered at the time. Discount Imitrex, I don't have a problem with carrying him if it needs doing."
I may as well have clucked like a chicken for all the difference it did, I honestly think some people need to l-i-s-t-e-n to what I'm saying.
The DM ignored me, and just kept harping on about how we had allegedly chosen not to take him with us, and had left him behind of our own volition, Imitrex usa. Even though that wasn't true.
Because I was the only one who COULD have carried him, this led to me becoming something of a scapegoat ... even though goodness knows why the other two goblins couldn't have carried him TOGETHER if they had wanted to... and the guy who died got all sulky like I'd done it on purpose, just because the DM was making out that I had, Discount Imitrex.
But the guy who died in the game has diagnosed Aspergers. I think he honestly wasn't entirely sure what was going on, himself, and he won't have realized how bewildered I was by the game. But yeah :-p now he kind of has a chip on his shoulder towards me. 20mg Imitrex, Thaaaaaaanks DM guy. Discount Imitrex, (sarcastic clapping) well done. *sigh.
And so, I think I am through with this game.
But for the reasons I've just rambled on about, I get the feeling that this is not actually Pathfinder's fault.
I wouldn't have thought it possible to cock up the goblins module so spectacularly. But there you go, Discount Imitrex.
If the DM guy was 14 or something, or new to DMing, then I'd cut him more slack.... but he must be about 50 years old ; and DMing D&D or Pathfinder is pretty much all he ever seems to do at the wargame club, 250mg Imitrex.
Ugh, he also insisted that we had to level up at the end of the last session... which was annoying because the DM did his buddies first and I had to sit there bored out of my mind for half an hour before he got round to telling me what to put on the character sheet. Discount Imitrex, But he never explained anything, he would just waffle away in an incomprehensible dialect of nerdese. As in "Well, do you want skill X or skill Y . Skill X prevents you from being caught flat footed, while Skill Y means you won't get a minus four when walking along a ledge"
Well, I have no idea what being flat footed means or when you might be caught doing it - or what a minus four is, or how likely it is that I might ever even see a ledge in the entire adventure. 500mg Imitrex, And when I said so, he didn't explain.... just told me to pick one. So, totally bored and unengaged, I just filled in whatever, Discount Imitrex.
And so, my Level 1 Generic Goblin is now a Level 2 Generic Goblin .... my goodness, no wonder I can't sleep.... it is probably all of the excitement of levelling up . ;-) on the upside, my crappy goblin with only 8 HP is now a crappy goblin with a much more robust 18HP. Discount Imitrex, May she live long and prosper in my absence :-)
As for the other guy, the one who got left by the shore... well he had to re-roll for his character and ended up with dire rolls which the DM is now obligating him to keep.
He had 18 strength before, and now he has 7... and he seems to think I am somehow responsible for this. :-p but it's really NOT my fault that their DM is apparently kind of an asshat. You know, Discount Imitrex.
At least one guy has already dropped out because he got fed up with the campaign. The DM is convinced he will return though.
Nobody is sure whether a second guy has dropped out or is just ill.
Now I'm dropping out.
And the guy who's in a mood with me might still be in the game... but he is obviously not enjoying himself even half as much as the other three.
Perhaps for me, I would be happier writing adventures than going off on them.
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